tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post2355353131241406611..comments2023-09-26T05:05:30.381-04:00Comments on soulbrother v.2: In Search of a Higher Education: My Teaching Experiences at a HBCUMax Reddickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09360630810931410487noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-64742455705545891962009-07-12T22:30:27.361-04:002009-07-12T22:30:27.361-04:00Ojo (3:49) actually thinks that it would be a good...Ojo (3:49) actually thinks that it would be a good idea to turn some of the smaller HBCU's into Jr. Colleges to do the remediation.<br />His is the best idea I've read on the topic.uglyblackjohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14404995571276457138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-65016900879013033702009-07-12T14:56:22.621-04:002009-07-12T14:56:22.621-04:00@ Raina Havock
I see ya'!
@ Anon
Not all HB...@ Raina Havock<br /><br />I see ya'!<br /><br />@ Anon<br /><br />Not all HBCU's are like this. An not all students attending a HBCU are as I described. But in the same instance, we need to think a few things through. Do we keep them open just for the sake of history and tradition? How do we affect change?<br /><br />@ Black Ink<br /><br />I'm feeling you too. As I read the article, I discerned many of the same things. There seemed to be this huge generation gap between Maxwell, and his students and instead of attempting to close that gap, he clung tenaciously to his old ideas and worldview.<br /><br />But in the same instance, from my own experience, I have seen much of the same thing, and I did try to reach out to them. Again, the love for learning and intellectual attainment must begin long before students step foot on a college campus.<br /><br />@ Lyn Marie <br /><br />I know exactly what you are talking about Lyn Marie. I work closely with the local school system, and I know what teachers are up against. The value system has changed tremendously. We have become a culture whose ideal of success is measured in dollars and not sense. But what do we do about it?Max Reddickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09360630810931410487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-40140042546499580452009-07-11T23:36:56.017-04:002009-07-11T23:36:56.017-04:00The issues Bill Maxwell mentions is not only in th...The issues Bill Maxwell mentions is not only in the HBCU experience, but in many schools (at all levels)across the country. As a teacher I completely understand the frustration. <br /><br />The truth is our society highlights wealth and ignorance. An example of that was our last election. The number of people both Black and White noted that Barack was not Black enough because of his education and manner of speech. To be educated and proper spoken is to be White. This was not the Black standard I grew up with (Malcolm and Martin and the like). Not to mention the many people that celebrated Sara Palin's ignorance of basic government and history. "She speaks to the middle class". Well if she does we can see why so many students are failing!<br /><br />The answers are the same answers from 20, 30 or 40 years ago. We must hold our society to a higher standard, starting with our schools and school administrators. Schools that pass students just to move them on needs to end. Alternatives to traditional education need to be created an example of that would be the KIPP schools or magnet programs. Basic manners should be part of all school curriculum and reinforced by parents. It can be done but we as a society must stop making excuses and just do it. If we do not we are losing many intelligent, creative minds because no one cares enough to make them be the people they were meant to be. <br /><br />I know this sounds a little like a soap box speech but it is the truth.Lyn Marienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-47055591915945269912009-07-11T03:49:19.058-04:002009-07-11T03:49:19.058-04:00Max,
http://thedesultorylifeandtimes.blogspot.com...Max,<br /><br />http://thedesultorylifeandtimes.blogspot.com/Citizen Ojohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07001825524756033450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-2373852787069439052009-07-10T23:59:13.447-04:002009-07-10T23:59:13.447-04:00I'm almost left speechless. But not really.
W...I'm almost left speechless. But not really.<br /><br />Without giving away too much, I know that Bill Maxwell is a relentless grump.<br /><br />And these two excerpts, in particular, caught my attention: <br /><br />"When I could not pronounce the second name on the list, I knew for sure I was in big trouble. As I fumbled with the strange combinations of alphabets and apostrophes, the class roared."<br /><br />"Instead of taking pride in being exemplary students, many were devotees of hip-hop culture. They were anti-intellectual, rude and profane."<br /><br />I might question the impression he had of the kids before he ever stepped foot on campus. Maxwell clearly doesn't think much of hip hop or the people who enjoy its culture, even though it's apparent he doesn't know much about it beyond what Tipper Gore told him. Seems a little Cosbyesque to me.<br /><br />But ... I also know that there's serious problems afflicting our smaller, poorer HBCUs. I can feel what you're talking about Max. Really.<br /><br />But I really wish Maxwell had offered some ideas, some answers rather than run through a litany of complaints. That's easy. Anyone with two eyes and a little time on their hands can point to the problems, you know?<br /><br />Like you asked, where do we go from here? Me, personally, I think we need to work on the socioeconomic discrepancies from the earliest ages. By the time these kids get to college, it's too late.<br /><br />Better day care, better child care, better early schooling, creating better parents, could count for a lot. Problem is, not many people are invested or interested in that sort of grassroots work. Maybe because it seems overwhelming.<br /><br />Ok. This is way too long. Nice, provocative post though, Max.blackinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00537923754597016040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-89346719435402606662009-07-10T21:39:50.969-04:002009-07-10T21:39:50.969-04:00This is a sad post. The good thing is that not all...This is a sad post. The good thing is that not all HBCU are like that.<br /><br />I can understand the impact of working while schooling. But I think the larger issue is the culture of learning and valuing education. If you can see students at greek fests and parties, but not in class something is wrong.<br /><br />At what age do we learn to value education? How do we change the our culture to value learning? <br /><br />I don't know the answer to that. I only know that I work on my own kids, and my nieces and nephews. I hold my sibblings accountable for teaching their kids ahead of their grade. Hopefully the kids will carry the experience with them through life, and seek to do more than what is expected of them.<br /><br />Sometimes its hard (timewise) to participate in a mentoring program. But we can all try to mentor the kid(s) that we often. Maybe more mentoring can helpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-68758191490136838562009-07-10T21:39:33.240-04:002009-07-10T21:39:33.240-04:00@MaX: It goes little something like this:
http://...@MaX: It goes little something like this:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWMVhCGIDjMRainaHavockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02019099371458545624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-47134786400690827622009-07-10T19:46:45.988-04:002009-07-10T19:46:45.988-04:00@ MD20737
I certainly did not mean to sadden anyo...@ MD20737<br /><br />I certainly did not mean to sadden anyone, but I did want people to think.<br /><br />@ MsLadyDeborah<br /><br />Sadly, I hear stories like that often. The values have changed in our society. I remember speaking to a mentor who told me how he went to school as raggedy as a mango seed, but he did not miss a day, and he excelled. Now they come sharp as a tack, hardly make it to class, and fail to achieve. Sign of the times?<br /><br />@ anon<br /><br />Thanks for the link.<br /><br />@ Raina Havock<br /><br />ssssssssssssssssssssssss! Does that sound lik a rattlesnake?Max Reddickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09360630810931410487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-16225906504948838952009-07-10T17:44:18.478-04:002009-07-10T17:44:18.478-04:00@MAX: Yep I'm a proud rattler! :D Who do you k...@MAX: Yep I'm a proud rattler! :D Who do you know on staff here? I love it out here and I have to admit that they do a good job it's just some thing that erks me off but I'm sure that's what most school goes through anyway.RainaHavockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02019099371458545624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-77882343942762570452009-07-10T16:50:22.960-04:002009-07-10T16:50:22.960-04:00gleaned from:
http://rattlernation.blogspot.com/2...gleaned from:<br /><br />http://rattlernation.blogspot.com/2009/04/ammons-adds-context-to-graduation-rate.html<br /><br /><br /> “Forty percent of FAMU students are in a science or science-based major, such as pharmacy (six years), engineering (five years), architecture (five years) or allied health, which now requires a master's degree.”<br /><br />"Many FAMU students try to avoid deep debt by working. During the 2006-2007 school year, FAMU had more students in federal work-study jobs than UCF, FAU, or UNF (which all have larger enrollments than FAMU). Large numbers of FAMU students also interrupt their education to work until they have enough money to re-enroll. Those trends all hurt the graduation rate."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-50754347755345555152009-07-10T16:26:27.031-04:002009-07-10T16:26:27.031-04:00My stepfather taught at Central State. This is wha...My stepfather taught at Central State. This is what he had to say about that particular school.<br /><br />"It is the only institution that I have taught at where the students dress better than the faculty and they carry books around without ever opening them." <br /><br />That was a real eye opener for me. <br /><br />Some of the HBCU's are about the business of education. Others leave a lot to be desired.msladyDeborahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17593695415626632490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-71490031897485978152009-07-10T15:07:38.960-04:002009-07-10T15:07:38.960-04:00This article is to sad for me to comment because i...This article is to sad for me to comment because its all true.md20737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-7884457371163776792009-07-10T14:45:28.271-04:002009-07-10T14:45:28.271-04:00If I am not mistaken, you are at FAMU. From what I...If I am not mistaken, you are at FAMU. From what I understand, FAMU is one of the better HBCU's. In fact, I have several good friends on staff there and two of my nieces go there as well. But some of the smaller HBCU's are struggling now, and their struggles severly affect the quality of education.Max Reddickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09360630810931410487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-21098764643637141082009-07-10T14:39:34.652-04:002009-07-10T14:39:34.652-04:00I'm at a HBCU right now. The classes are very ...I'm at a HBCU right now. The classes are very good size but I wish the administration was a little bit better.RainaHavockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02019099371458545624noreply@blogger.com