tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post6591172138433817084..comments2023-09-26T05:05:30.381-04:00Comments on soulbrother v.2: You Cannot Change the Schools Until You Change the Community: Max Reddick’s Commonsense Argument for the Betterment of Minority EducationMax Reddickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09360630810931410487noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-20083899806208226642009-10-22T09:21:47.295-04:002009-10-22T09:21:47.295-04:00Max if there is a will there is a way. I totally a...Max if there is a will there is a way. I totally agree the home life has a direct correlation whether it be negative or positive on a child learning process and ability. But if the parent is serious about the childs education they will not depend on just the teacher for the child to learn. <br /><br />We know as blacks that since Crack/Cocaine emerged in our communities we have never been the same. The healing and progress that took place in the civil rights era that brought us so much pride and progress was almost erased. Crack has destroyed families and started a devestating cycle of kids raising kids. I see so many kids these days taking care of thier parents becuase their parents are on or were on Crack. In my family I have many relatives who motherless, fatherless, or both. They all have severe emotion problems. Some have over come and some have not. Each family memember with these problems has not been successful in pursuing higher education. They barely graduated high school. <br /><br />If children are to get a good education the parent or gaurdian must take the extra steps to ensure learning is taking place. If that includes moving, homeschooling, sending to private school it must happen. Its never easy to be or get the best. The black community is in shambles. The black community is extremely segregated within each other so I dont know if the communities can ever be fixed. The root problem may never get fixed, so the problems stemming from the root may never be fixed. <br /><br />Think about this public schools are run the by government. This is the kind of education that is approved for Minorities and non minorities that can not afford private schools. What message is that sending? I know what it says to me. What does it say to you?md20737https://www.blogger.com/profile/10885442119224791741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-23837617903108698462009-10-22T08:02:01.665-04:002009-10-22T08:02:01.665-04:00@ Freeman, I think we are on the same street.
&qu...@ Freeman, I think we are on the same street.<br /><br />"My aim is not to provide excuses for black behavior or to absolve blacks of personal responsibility. But when the new black conservatives accent black behavior and responsibility in such a way that the cultural realities of black people are ignored, they are playing a deceptive and dangerous intellectual game with the lives and fortunes of disadvantaged people. <br /><br />We indeed must criticize and condemn immoral acts of black people, but we must do so cognizant of the circumstances into which people are born and under which they live. By overlooking these circumstances, the new black conservatives fall into the trap of blaming black poor people for their predicament. It is imperative to steer a course between the Scylla of environmental determinism and the Charybdis of a blaming-the-victims perspective." - Dr. Cornel West (Race Matters)<br /><br /> And this: "So what did the Chinese do when they were faced with OPIUM. They killed everyone the addicts and the dealers to purge theirselves"<br /><br />I am following your flow. I know you are not calling for the eradication of those that have "problems" yet, I hear you saying the softer/easier way has not worked - HAS NEVER WORKED.<br /><br />As the Last Poets said: "Niggas will jive and bulls**t" - each other. And then call it progress.CareyCareyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832737883766894892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-60372859201662121932009-10-22T01:56:20.958-04:002009-10-22T01:56:20.958-04:00@Max - Look We Blacks have to admit that this drug...@Max - Look We Blacks have to admit that this drug problem has kicked our ass. It has disabled our community and created a alternate destructive reality.<br /><br />So what did the Chinese do when they were faced with OPIUM. They killed everyone the addicts and the dealers to purge theirselves.<br /><br />Now I don't agree to be that harsh but we have to get our kids out of the areas where this alternate reality exists. We have to create our own schools because we know money is running our schools. We have to create our own because any new way of teaching is forced upon our group and then scrapped for another one the next year. <br /><br />We know what to do but we like to tell others to do it! No one is going to save us but us.FreeManhttp://www.riseandgrind.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-27859232042070894822009-10-22T00:54:50.814-04:002009-10-22T00:54:50.814-04:00I agree with you Max on this. Interestingly I have...I agree with you Max on this. Interestingly I have been thinking about this lately because I have young siblings who are educated in the neighborhood that I grew up in and it is amazing but at a very young age they don't even want to go to school. The mentality is just not conducive at times to education and that really worries me. <br /><br />They are in a poor environment where the hustle is king. They don't feel like they need a education. My youngest sibling is eight and he says that he is going to get a job. He doesn't like school. And sadly the education he is getting is a joke because like you said the school is now more of a catch all of wayward children. <br /><br />If someone would truly invest in these communities as well as the people then that mentality of education being some foreign thing would cease to be a reality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-83548231851465084522009-10-21T23:48:44.505-04:002009-10-21T23:48:44.505-04:00Uncle Black = Uglyblackjohn.
I know it may sound ...Uncle Black = Uglyblackjohn.<br /><br />I know it may sound silly, but I have a hard time calling a man "uglyblackjohn"CareyCareyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832737883766894892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-867053016767858542009-10-21T23:44:48.385-04:002009-10-21T23:44:48.385-04:00"So the question then becomes is a Chocolate ..."So the question then becomes is a Chocolate City even desirable? And what are the advantages for blacks in Chocolate Cities?"<br /><br />Hello Max, I came here via Uncle Black's blog. You made that comment. That's a very good question. I'll wait to see your thoughts.<br /><br />Freeman wrote: ..."I don't think it's in the best interest of the school district to actually educate kids. I believe it's like prison just a place to hold them and collect tax dollars off the attendance roles. With all the evil money manipulating intent surrounding our children why would we keep thinking the same way"<br /><br />I say Bingo! I smell money. <br /><br />It's my opinion that we can talk all day about, busing, better "schools",poverty, violence, poor parenting,poor districts, inferior teachers, etc,. None of those are at the core of the problem. If I can refer back to Max's quote, there lies the problem. It called racism and money. <br /><br />Religion is a cousin of racism.... hold that thought. Since the begining of time, race and money has been at the core of all that's evil. I hope I don't offend anyone, but Christianity was/is a form of racism. Well, "wait on yours(darkies), it will come in the morning"..."Here's a bible, read about it, while we reap the rewards".<br /><br />Granted, poverty is a secondary problem, but the question is, who creats poverty? Alas, we have come home. Racism and those with money. Just as Max questioned.... "is it desirable....". Well, if history is true, where there are large numbers of blacks, poverty is present or soon to follow. Ushered in by talking head Negros, and racist who frequently "arrive" and say "look at me, dis how you do it". Money talks, the rest is just BS.CareyCareyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832737883766894892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-68335907886420912952009-10-21T21:04:02.051-04:002009-10-21T21:04:02.051-04:00@msladydeborah
One of the main reasons charter sc...@msladydeborah<br /><br />One of the main reasons charter schools are outperforming traditional schools is that they have the autonomy to put into place many of the programs that target the needs of the whole child and that child's family.<br /><br />And busing children to school's outside their community will help some, but for many the experience is perhaps more harmful than helpful.<br /><br />To reiterate my point, stop the clever schemes and address the real issue--poverty and its effects.<br /><br />@Freeman<br /><br />A friend attended a conference for black educators this weekend. When he returned, he could not believe the number of consulting firms and book companies that were in attendance. He stated, in fact, the consulting firms and book companies, all supposedly dedicated to helping close the educational gap, far outnumbered the conference attendees. <br /><br />In addition, he made another observation. A lot of African Americans are making money off failing schools. Now I am not against anyone making money. I like money. But the question then arises: Are you doing this because you are really concerned about our children or have you just figured out a clever hustle?<br /><br />And I discussed the boarding school idea with a principal recently. That principal stated that if she could just keep the children 24/7 and not send them home, she could really make a difference in their lives. It was her observation that much of the foolishness they are learning at home and in the community is in direct conflict with the values she is attempting to instill in them at school.<br /><br />@Justice58<br /><br />Will do. Good to meet you.Max Reddickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09360630810931410487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-78383970079576033312009-10-21T19:07:51.874-04:002009-10-21T19:07:51.874-04:00Hi,
Would you add us at http://weeseeyou.com/ to ...Hi,<br /><br />Would you add us at http://weeseeyou.com/ to your blog roll? We'll add you to ours!<br /><br /><br />Thank You Kindly!SouthernGirl2https://www.blogger.com/profile/01829901840187884140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-54997391653397757032009-10-21T18:33:35.115-04:002009-10-21T18:33:35.115-04:00As a kid born, raised and educated from Compton wh...As a kid born, raised and educated from Compton whose family are educators and administrators in the school district I 100% agree. You don't know how many stories my family has talked about this same issue. You don't know how many uniforms I bought for kids who my mother, sisters and brothers asked me to buy so the poor kid wouldn't feel out of place.<br /><br />The issue becomes is the system so corrupt that we can't fix it or is it the people are so lost that we can't bring them back. Now from my point of view a kid can learn anything you put in front of them so the system has to change. The core issue is NO one in their right mind believes it will so why pursue it that way. You have Book companies coming up with new editions when the old edition was just fine, consultants hustling their methods, principals and superintendents trying to keep their jobs and a neighborhood concentrating on survival and will probably never pay attention to education as a result.<br /><br />I threw out a basic blueprint on my other blog about this.<br /><br />http://freemanpress.wordpress.com/2009/05/04/step-5-education-boarding-schools/<br /><br />I don't think it's in the best interest of the school district to actually educate kids. I believe it's like prison just a place to hold them and collect tax dollars off the attendance roles. With all the evil money manipulating intent surrounding our children why would we keep thinking the same way. <br /><br />Education will change the community in one generation. So to me trying to change the community through jobs and the like may take longer than just building boarding schools and focusing like a laser for 20 years on giving Maslows theory a real try.<br /><br />Safety is what is killing our kids. A unstable environment destroys all.<br /><br />As an outsider who is moreFreeManhttp://www.riseandgrind.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3023640958277221986.post-28460600359093652162009-10-21T16:49:33.460-04:002009-10-21T16:49:33.460-04:00I totally agree with your basic premise.
Until w...I totally agree with your basic premise. <br /><br />Until we begin to work in earnest on altering our mentality about our self worth and what is good for us as individuals throwing money at the problem won't solve what is at the root of the problem.<br /><br />When did attaining and education become a point of assimilation? I don't understand how our Black identity suddenly becomes lost when we stand upright morally, attain a workable education that helps us into the ranks of the employed, when we take the responsibility for ourselves and all that we help to create.<br /><br />Shouldn't we be questioning why the charter schools that run by AA's, seem to be out performing the schools that we pour our tax dollars into? <br /><br />I am of the firm believe that busing our children out of our communities on the fake notion that other schools were better is bull. At least this is how I see it in my part of the union. What actually happened was the break in the bond between the community and those institutions.<br /><br />This cycle of throwing money into failing to thrieve schools is not the answer. It might up grade the physical building or help to shore up the weak portions of their curriculum offerings. But without a sane and safe community that is working on a similiar mindset about improvement and attaining goals, it is not going to work.msladyDeborahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17593695415626632490noreply@blogger.com